May 31, 2007
Chaos Storm #496


Chaos Storm #496 has swept the Lok'Groton island chain. Please post any changes you have observed and wish to share with others in the comments. If you don't want to read possible spoilers, please do not read the comments.

Posted by Para at May 31, 2007 07:18 AM

Delta Tao's "What's New" for v496:

5/30/2007 v496
The whole purpose of education is to turn mirrors into windows. - Sydney J. Harris

* No crashes in 421 days and counting.
* Champion qualifications are now verified.
* You'll have to explore to discover the rest of this Chaos Storm's changes. Enjoy!

Posted by: Para on May 31, 2007 06:22 PM

Those Champions who seem to have 'forgotten' their fell blade training have been barred from the Champion Hall until they can again show proficency with the blade.

Posted by: Champus on June 1, 2007 11:54 AM

So you'll punish the retrainers by preventing them from accessing a subclass that they never wanted and only entered so they could retrain? Sounds like a good plan.

Posted by: Skirwan on June 2, 2007 11:45 AM

From Slartibartfast:

* Monsters should now have to hit you in order to poison you. Just swinging isn't enough. (Licking lizards and frogs is another story, and is still discouraged by the Puddleby Temperance Union.)

* Awaria is still slowly improving.

* Wood seems to be getting sturdier.

* Some other tweaks and additions, but they are secret.
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Posted by: s on June 2, 2007 03:33 PM

Skirwan, you're kinda wrong: they'll all retrain the 75 (80?) fell blade so they can continue training with the 'ites. It seems pretty reasonable for Champus to require some proficiency with the fell blade, and the irritation of not being able to change 'ite trainers for the next 2 months seems like punishment enough for the Untrainus rank gain.

The girdle and the cloak are the only worthless (sorry Garr!) champion tools; the stones are pretty good.

Posted by: Sala Dragon on June 2, 2007 03:36 PM

"they'll all retrain the 75 (80?) fell blade so they can continue training with the 'ites."

Actually, that's quite untrue.

Posted by: Gorvin on June 2, 2007 05:35 PM

There was no punishment for the abusers. At least, none that I've heard.

Posted by: Xepel on June 2, 2007 11:07 PM

Thank you Xepel.

For future reference, 'irony' is the use of words or expressions with the intention of conveying a meaning contrary to their common literal interpretation. So if, for instance, I were to write, "sounds like a good plan," if that statement were intended ironically my intention would be to point out that this is a piss-poor way of punishing people who intentionally abused a design oversight in a fashion that they clearly recognized was inappropriate.

Posted by: Skirwan on June 3, 2007 01:03 AM

I wouldn't have said that "you were wrong" if I actually thought that you were serious about it being a good plan? Ok?

Anyway, I'm kind of surprised that it's not worth it to train 80 goss to get access to the 'ites, but I don't know the numbers, and I'm sure Gorvin does.

Posted by: Sala on June 3, 2007 01:52 AM

Everything continued training with the earth minerals would have offered is easily replaceable by training with the vanilla fighter trainers instead. An earth mineral training style is better in some ways and worse in others, but by no means worth spending 80 ranks in a weapon you're not going to use (nor should it be, it'd be pretty overpowered if that were the case).

So the "punishment" is that those that had an interest in earth mineral training (and not all did to begin with) will have to choose a vanilla fighter training style for future ranks instead.

Posted by: Gorvin on June 3, 2007 02:32 AM

Sala, I'm not clear why you seem to be offended, as my previous comment was pretty clearly addressed to Xepel.

(Unless both characters are played by the same human, in which case I'd have to say posting under both names in a comment thread is more than a little sketchy.)

Posted by: Skirwan on June 3, 2007 05:53 PM


In that case, must've not been too clear, as I didn't notice you were addressing the second part to me.

I was just reiterating your point, and adding that I too had not heard of any punishment for these abusers. I didn't know if you thought that the "can't access Champ trainers (anymore)" was the full extent of their punishment or not. I'll try to be offended or something.

I sent you a PM with additional details, if you're interested. ::shrugs::

Posted by: Xepel on June 3, 2007 06:43 PM

You can train all the goss you want, it won't make you a champion. :D

I am sure Sala meant fell. ;)

Posted by: Bontemps on June 6, 2007 05:05 PM
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